If you have any question as to why South Bend needs to add protection on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity to its Human Rights Ordinance, read the following comments from the wndu website and consider that the people leaving these comments are possibly our neighbors, employers, teachers, etc. They clearly demonstrate why protection is needed on this basis.
Notice also that many fail to realize that the amendment proposed previously exempted churches and religious groups, an exemption asked for by South Bend Equality. They also confuse the issue with others, enabling them to make even more false claims.
Notice also that none are unwilling to sign their real/full name to their comments.
Posted by: Sporty Location: LaPorte on Apr 28, 2009 at 09:56 AM
This should never pass as it could be used against religious institutions for not hiring a gay person. It also is a stepping stone towards 'hate speech' indictments. If someone speaks out against gay relations say in a religious venue,that could be termed 'hate speech' and subject the individual to arrest. We need to be extremely careful how we address this issue as it has great ramifications for the future.
It's a stepping stone to nothing other than the ability to report alleged discrimination an ability that already exists for many others.
Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 28, 2009 at 10:41 AM
There are Federal discrimination laws already in place to protect people from these types of actions in the workplace. It is actions like this that make it obvious these individuals go to IUSB. This is an attempt to draw attention to themselves for whatever selfish reason they may have. Yes, we know you are gay... no one cares.
There is currently NO state or federal legislation available for South Bend residents. State and federal employees are the only ones who have such protection.
Posted by: tina Location: culver on Apr 28, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Is it S.B. or S.G. (Sodom and Gomorrah)
Unfortunately, tina fails to recognize the culture of Sodom and Gomorrah, one in which the sin of inhospitatlity was a grave sin.
Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
They should be out assisting the needy instead of promoting their sick values.
Last time I checked, we were fighting for the equal treatment of every member of our community. That's sick??? Perhaps Anon is admitting he/she doesn't have an orientation or gender identity?
Posted by: Harry Location: South Bend on Apr 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Sporty is correct and it's time that the rest of us stand up for what we believe. These individuals have the same basic human rights as the rest of us, but that is it - no more, no less. I certainly don't believe that they have a right to marry, since that is for a man and a woman. Do what you will behind your doors, but don't expect me to accept your perverted behavior.
This issue isn't about marriage. I'm not sure when holding a job, going to school, maintaining a home or spending money in our community became perverted behavior.
Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 28, 2009 at 11:17 AM
if you are not a permanent resident of our fair city, stay out of our council meetings, pushing your agenda, which runs against the majority of the people in this country. This has been my pet peeve for years. When non resident college students can vote in our local and state elections and influence the results. Vote abstentee for your home area, just like I did when I was in the Military. Just a remminder to the city council, you are in a conservative midwestern state that has strong beliefs. We elected you, we can fire you.
Last time around, the leaders of the opposition didn't live in South Bend. Perhaps they should have stayed in their home towns instead of coming to South Bend to push their agenda.
Posted by: Tonya on Apr 28, 2009 at 12:06 PM
If you don't feel safe in SB, don't stay.
Hard to comment on someone who demonstrates so little concern for their neighbors.
Posted by: Me Location: Topeka on Apr 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM
They can do as they wish with their meetings, but it seems to me that there are more important issues than whining about the fact that most of us straight people view their acts as sick and disgusting!
Topeka? Home of Fred Phelps,the man responsible for protesting military funerals. We have another individual who doesn't realize that the majority of people, including straight people, actually support protection of this basis. In fact, such support is around 80%.
Posted by: Billie Location: Jean on Apr 28, 2009 at 01:03 PM
Michael Jackson likes young kids. Should the city council enshrine his right to be with young kids?
Pedophilia is a crime and it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Posted by: Jenny on Apr 28, 2009 at 01:48 PM
SICK SICK SICK. Totally unatural..and wrong. Quit wasting the councils time. Seek attention elsewhere. I like Jills comment.
I see. Equal protection for all is a waste of time. Interesting.
Posted by: Heather on Apr 28, 2009 at 08:53 PM
To Janna, God does love gays and lesbians, but he did not create them to be that way. If he did it gays and lesbians would be able to have babies, it would not take a man and a women to make a child.
Look out infertile straight couples. Not sure when having babies was a requirement for holding a job,etc.
Wednesday, April 29, 2009
GLBT amendment sought in South Bend again
City council voted down proposal in '06.
from the South Bend Tribune
4/29/09
Jaimie Loo, staff writer
SOUTH BEND — Students from Indiana University South Bend, the University of Notre Dame and Saint Mary's College asked the Common Council during privilege of the floor Monday to consider amending the human rights ordinance to include language for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered persons.
IUSB Equality vice president Zach Duncan said that without adding language for GLBT people to the ordinance, he doesn't think he would be protected by the law if he was fired from a job for being gay. After he graduates, Duncan said, he would consider leaving South Bend for a job market that has GLBT protections.
Saint Mary's College sophomore Courtney Helman said an environment in which GLBT people cannot report discrimination only furthers intolerance. Helman cited the recent suicide of Carl Walker-Hoover of Massachusetts, who repeatedly was taunted by classmates who claimed he was gay. Walker's mother reported the ongoing harassment to school administrators, she said.
Notre Dame College Democrats president Henry Vasquez said everyone should have basic human rights and that it took progressive changes in this country for African-Americans to be treated equally. Vasquez said he hopes council members will take a stand and be part of the next movement to guarantee rights for GLBT individuals.
None of the council members are supporting measures to reconsider amendments to the human rights ordinance at this time.
In 2006, the council held several public hearings on the proposed amendment over a two-month period. The amendment was defeated in a 5-4 vote.
The proposed amendment was introduced again in 2007 by former council members Charlotte Pfeifer and Randy Kelly but was later pulled from the agenda. In a Tribune interview in late November 2007, Pfeifer said she and Kelly felt there wasn't enough time for the council to review new information before the council's last meeting of the year, and they wanted to make sure there was support for the ordinance before it was brought up again.
from the South Bend Tribune
4/29/09
Jaimie Loo, staff writer
SOUTH BEND — Students from Indiana University South Bend, the University of Notre Dame and Saint Mary's College asked the Common Council during privilege of the floor Monday to consider amending the human rights ordinance to include language for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered persons.
IUSB Equality vice president Zach Duncan said that without adding language for GLBT people to the ordinance, he doesn't think he would be protected by the law if he was fired from a job for being gay. After he graduates, Duncan said, he would consider leaving South Bend for a job market that has GLBT protections.
Saint Mary's College sophomore Courtney Helman said an environment in which GLBT people cannot report discrimination only furthers intolerance. Helman cited the recent suicide of Carl Walker-Hoover of Massachusetts, who repeatedly was taunted by classmates who claimed he was gay. Walker's mother reported the ongoing harassment to school administrators, she said.
Notre Dame College Democrats president Henry Vasquez said everyone should have basic human rights and that it took progressive changes in this country for African-Americans to be treated equally. Vasquez said he hopes council members will take a stand and be part of the next movement to guarantee rights for GLBT individuals.
None of the council members are supporting measures to reconsider amendments to the human rights ordinance at this time.
In 2006, the council held several public hearings on the proposed amendment over a two-month period. The amendment was defeated in a 5-4 vote.
The proposed amendment was introduced again in 2007 by former council members Charlotte Pfeifer and Randy Kelly but was later pulled from the agenda. In a Tribune interview in late November 2007, Pfeifer said she and Kelly felt there wasn't enough time for the council to review new information before the council's last meeting of the year, and they wanted to make sure there was support for the ordinance before it was brought up again.
College students fight for gay and lesbian rights in South Bend
Apr 28, 2009
wndu.com
Several groups of college students stood up for what they believe in last night at the South Bend Common Council meeting, saying their rights are not protected and it must change.
They are talking about changing the city's human rights ordinance to include sexual orientation.
Back in 2006, there was a heated debate in the council chambers over this same issue.
Under the current ordinance, gay and lesbian students say their biggest fear is to live in South Bend after graduation.
“If I decided to start a career here, I could be fired just because of the fact I'm gay, not for the fact my job qualifications have blundered, just for the fact I'm gay,” said Zach Duncan, a student at IUSB.
Duncan and other supporters say they will keep showing up to these meetings hoping to persuade the council to make some changes.
wndu.com
Several groups of college students stood up for what they believe in last night at the South Bend Common Council meeting, saying their rights are not protected and it must change.
They are talking about changing the city's human rights ordinance to include sexual orientation.
Back in 2006, there was a heated debate in the council chambers over this same issue.
Under the current ordinance, gay and lesbian students say their biggest fear is to live in South Bend after graduation.
“If I decided to start a career here, I could be fired just because of the fact I'm gay, not for the fact my job qualifications have blundered, just for the fact I'm gay,” said Zach Duncan, a student at IUSB.
Duncan and other supporters say they will keep showing up to these meetings hoping to persuade the council to make some changes.
Friday, April 24, 2009
"The Last Prejudice" Claims Another Victim
By Gilbert H. Caldwell,
Retired United Methodist Minister and member of the Soulforce Executive Director's Round Table
The setting is Springfield, Massachusetts: Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover is a student at the New Leadership Charter School. He is active and popular and well-liked by many of the teachers at the School. But, the 11 year old boy was found by his mother hanging from an electrical cord in her home. Ms. Walker was interviewed by Anderson Cooper of CNN and she shared that her son Carl had been verbally abused by some of his classmates, calling him "gay" and using negative words to assault his person.
Rev. Dr. Mel White, founder of Soulforce was on the program with Ms. Walker and put into context some of the reasons for the hatred and abuse that many young people express toward their fellow students who are LGBTQ, or whom they have labeled as being so. Mel, in response to questions from host Anderson Cooper, identified the negative role much of the Church has played in creating the environment for the abuse and bashing of LGBTQ persons, young and old, and in the case of Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, a young person whose actions and mannerisms were thought to be gay.
Peter J. Gomes, Professor of Christian Morals and Preacher to Harvard University, wrote "The Good Book: Reading the Bible with Mind and Heart." He describes the bias, bigotry and prejudice toward persons who are same gender loving as "The Last Prejudice." Gomes in his magnificently written book, details how flawed interpretation of the Bible and the embrace of that interpretation by much of the Church, has contributed to the climate that supports and sustains much of the bigotry directed at the LGBTQ community.
I participated in a vigil on the steps of the Colorado State Capitol in Denver, following the beating and death of Matthew Shepard. Although the death of Carl Walker-Hoover was self-inflicted, I feel today as I felt those many years ago. It is difficult to describe the emotional impact the sad and tragic news from Springfield, Massachusetts had upon me when I first heard it.
Mel White, Jeff Lutes the Executive Director, and the staff of Soulforce and Soulforce Q have developed resources and have experiences and insights that could help the Church from continuing to be an accomplice to the harm and hurt caused by those who do violence to LGBTQ persons, or those who are thought to be.
May the death of Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, with all of the pain, hurt and anger it evokes in many of us, become a teaching moment - especially for the Church. It is the task of the Church to proclaim to young people, and those not-so-young, that God loves them regardless of their sexual orientation, race, or gender. Some adults failed not only Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover. They also failed to teach those young people who abused Carl - causing his death - that all persons are of sacred worth.
Retired United Methodist Minister and member of the Soulforce Executive Director's Round Table
The setting is Springfield, Massachusetts: Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover is a student at the New Leadership Charter School. He is active and popular and well-liked by many of the teachers at the School. But, the 11 year old boy was found by his mother hanging from an electrical cord in her home. Ms. Walker was interviewed by Anderson Cooper of CNN and she shared that her son Carl had been verbally abused by some of his classmates, calling him "gay" and using negative words to assault his person.
Rev. Dr. Mel White, founder of Soulforce was on the program with Ms. Walker and put into context some of the reasons for the hatred and abuse that many young people express toward their fellow students who are LGBTQ, or whom they have labeled as being so. Mel, in response to questions from host Anderson Cooper, identified the negative role much of the Church has played in creating the environment for the abuse and bashing of LGBTQ persons, young and old, and in the case of Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, a young person whose actions and mannerisms were thought to be gay.
Peter J. Gomes, Professor of Christian Morals and Preacher to Harvard University, wrote "The Good Book: Reading the Bible with Mind and Heart." He describes the bias, bigotry and prejudice toward persons who are same gender loving as "The Last Prejudice." Gomes in his magnificently written book, details how flawed interpretation of the Bible and the embrace of that interpretation by much of the Church, has contributed to the climate that supports and sustains much of the bigotry directed at the LGBTQ community.
I participated in a vigil on the steps of the Colorado State Capitol in Denver, following the beating and death of Matthew Shepard. Although the death of Carl Walker-Hoover was self-inflicted, I feel today as I felt those many years ago. It is difficult to describe the emotional impact the sad and tragic news from Springfield, Massachusetts had upon me when I first heard it.
Mel White, Jeff Lutes the Executive Director, and the staff of Soulforce and Soulforce Q have developed resources and have experiences and insights that could help the Church from continuing to be an accomplice to the harm and hurt caused by those who do violence to LGBTQ persons, or those who are thought to be.
May the death of Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, with all of the pain, hurt and anger it evokes in many of us, become a teaching moment - especially for the Church. It is the task of the Church to proclaim to young people, and those not-so-young, that God loves them regardless of their sexual orientation, race, or gender. Some adults failed not only Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover. They also failed to teach those young people who abused Carl - causing his death - that all persons are of sacred worth.
Friday, April 17, 2009
Notre Dame students take ‘staND’ against hate
from the South Bend Tribune
4/17/09
By MARGARET FOSMOE
Tribune Staff Writer
SOUTH BEND — Some University of Notre Dame students on Thursday snapped up free T-shirts, eager to join a campus effort to eliminate hatred toward gays, lesbians and transgender people.
The black T-shirts, with white lettering, read: "I will not be silent. I will not be indifferent. I will not just tolerate."
The T-shirt giveaway was part of the annual "Make a StaND Against Hate" week on campus, designed to end hostility toward others based on sexual identity.
Many Notre Dame students generally are accepting of others, regardless of sexual orientation, but there still are jokes, hurtful remarks and hostile comments heard on campus, according to students involved in the shirt handout.
"I had several friends who had to transfer (from Notre Dame) because they experienced daily harassment in their dorms (regarding their sexual orientation)," said Notre Dame junior Eddie Velazquez, co-chair of the campus Core Council for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual & Questioning Students. Such hostility "is definitely present on this campus," he said.
The week's events are "really important. I feel like a lot of people here just brush (such issues) under the rug," said freshman Jason G'Sell, who stopped by to pick up a T-shirt.
Some students will be wearing the shirts today to mark National Day of Silence, dedicated to creating safer schools and colleges for everyone, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity.
The week's activities included banner signings, a film screening and the shirt giveaway. The events end today with a silent campus procession and a prayer service.
Staff writer Margaret Fosmoe:
mfosmoe@sbtinfo.com
4/17/09
By MARGARET FOSMOE
Tribune Staff Writer
SOUTH BEND — Some University of Notre Dame students on Thursday snapped up free T-shirts, eager to join a campus effort to eliminate hatred toward gays, lesbians and transgender people.
The black T-shirts, with white lettering, read: "I will not be silent. I will not be indifferent. I will not just tolerate."
The T-shirt giveaway was part of the annual "Make a StaND Against Hate" week on campus, designed to end hostility toward others based on sexual identity.
Many Notre Dame students generally are accepting of others, regardless of sexual orientation, but there still are jokes, hurtful remarks and hostile comments heard on campus, according to students involved in the shirt handout.
"I had several friends who had to transfer (from Notre Dame) because they experienced daily harassment in their dorms (regarding their sexual orientation)," said Notre Dame junior Eddie Velazquez, co-chair of the campus Core Council for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual & Questioning Students. Such hostility "is definitely present on this campus," he said.
The week's events are "really important. I feel like a lot of people here just brush (such issues) under the rug," said freshman Jason G'Sell, who stopped by to pick up a T-shirt.
Some students will be wearing the shirts today to mark National Day of Silence, dedicated to creating safer schools and colleges for everyone, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity.
The week's activities included banner signings, a film screening and the shirt giveaway. The events end today with a silent campus procession and a prayer service.
Staff writer Margaret Fosmoe:
mfosmoe@sbtinfo.com
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